Let’s divide today’s show in 3 parts:

Zen at home: Unfortunately, Kendall’s obsession continues. But she knows she did the wrong thing (and that’s encouraging), and she’s saying that she believes Zach blames her. He denies that he does. OK, that’s good. But on what planet does Kendall owe Annie anything? Why should Kendall give Annie a break? Other than the fact that the obsession is annoying, I don’t see why Kendall owes Annie a little space. A psychobitch is a psychobitch, after all.

And as tired as I am of Kendall’s obsession, I’m so damn tired of Zach walking away from Kendall/walking out on Kendall/telling her to shut up. It's going hand in hand nowadays.

Kendall at work: I’m also getting tired of everyone ganging up on Kendall if she expresses a different idea. I know that AMC used Kendall’s voice of dissension as a way to milk the drama (since she really wasn't opposed to their idea), but I hate that employees and a co-partner talk to her like shit. She’s right—when she opens her mouth lately, people expect her to slit someone’s throat. If only, IMO. Then this show would really be something.

Once again, we have Kendall thinking that everything she does is wrong in Zach’s eyes. We’ve come so far from Divorce Island, when Zach believed in her and her judgement. Her obsession doesn’t help, I know, but she’s also not speaking in tongues, either. What she’s guessed or predicted has played out so far. It's rational and alot of it has been confirmed. Why can’t someone give her the benefit of the doubt just once?

I do call :bullshit on no follow up from the hospital scenes. Greenlee was a bitch to Kendall in the hospital, and they acted today like Kendall’s actions, and Greenlee’s reaction, never happened.

Zach at work: Where do I begin? First, having heard for himself that Kendall thinks that he blames her for the miscarriage, I’d be a little less nonchalant than just saying “Kendall is Kendall.” That's a hell of a weight for someone to carry. Second, I don’t get the leap in writing for Zach, where he wonders if the house/kids/him is enough to make Kendall happy. For the last few weeks (hell, from the moment Greenlee walked in), it was much more about Zach’s unhappiness with Kendall, than about Kendall’s happiness. That was a jump. However, since I think it’s high damn time someone asked the question, I will overlook it. And lastly, but since this is a Kendall-centered board, it needs to be said—Zach seems to like Greenlee more than he likes Kendall right now. And I made my peace with Grach’s friendship a long time ago, but the difference in how he handled her surprise arrival vs. his wife’s from last week was glaring. It needs to be acknowledged, and this is the one place I feel comfortable doing it.

I call :bullshit on any similarity between Graidan and Zendall. I also call :bullshit on any similiarity to Greenlee's return and what we're seeing now with Kendall. Greenlee tried to get Zach arrested and wanted to take away Spike, which Zach now smiles at and thinks is quaint. Kendall is voicing her two cents, and that's all she's doing. Granted, she's talking alot, but she's not exactly calling the police, having people arrested for bigamy or suing for custody, nor is she kidnapping infants.

I’m psyched for Erica/Kendall. I may find some peace in that story.

Greenlee is just evolved, Jules. That whole kidnapping, maiming, almost getting K the death penalty was all a part of the process of going through the door. Aidan's lurve has brought her through the door and thank goodness for that. Who the fuck else would teach Zach faith, love and forgiveness? Or give him marriage advice? Certainly not that bitchwhorecrazyannoyingbabykilling wife of his. No, she's running around knocking over mentally ill kids' wheelchairs, all "WTF? I don't do couches! And doors? Fuck doors!!" *kicks a puppy*

To be fair, Zach is a busy man. He can only make time for EveryoneButKendall. Those couches aren't going to sit on and get up off themselves.

Now you know you need to shut the hell up and go home.

And that Julie, makes me so very sad. I won't comment any further until I watch the clip.

I had something intelligent to add and then I read Des' *kicks a puppy* and I laughed so much I forgot what I was going to say.

Oh... I remember now. Petey was teh awesome today! And I like Kick-ass Kendall at work. I'm so very glad that she went to Erica instead of Zach for help. The "if you paid more attention to your company this wouldn't happen" lecture can wait another day IMO.


Anyone else find it amusing that whenever Greenlee and Zach are together, talking about how controlling or crazy Kendall is, that they are drinking? Yeah, you fuckers, you make me want to drink when I watch that bullshit too.

I almost puked when Greenlee asked Zach if he had a second and he said for you always. :rolleyes:

I did enjoy Pete's calling Adam "C-man" because I so thought he said semen.

I'll show myself out now.

But here's a question: Did I set a record for most uses of the :bullshit emoticon in one post on AMO? If so, with this story, I think I may break my own record.

You know I only watched about 10 minutes total today and I was lucky enough to see the sainted Greenleach surprise her bestest friend in his office. The way he came off that couch with a light in his eyes and a skip to his step made me physically ill. especially when he told her he always has time for her. Quite a difference than his reaction to his wife showing up unexpectedly. I have decided I hate Pratt a thousand times worse than McTrash
<_<

I'm surprised he didn't say "Always, Only You"

ETA:

Petey, Petey, Petey.... let me introduce you to Ryan Lavery.

Sadly, no, pumpkin. I think it was Bee who used seven of them consecutively last week. :lol:

Haven't you heard? "Shut up and go home" is this years "Always, Only You"

MOISTURE!

Petey is more manly than JR./ sorta random

Nope that was Susan. Susan just post post posted away. LOL

Aaahhh... you are correct WIFE.


Fabulous point, Donna. Perhaps I should have Reminderbands made for this year's SSW that say... "Shut Up and Go Home"

Susan's my competition? Okeydokey. I love the girl, but I still predict I'll beat her record. Mr. Pratt, I predict, will not let me down.

It does have a nice ring to it.

I think buttons will get our point across.

BUTTON!!!!!

I don't know, Zach liking Greenlee more than Kendall is nothing new. It wasn't a new revelation for me. Zach seems to like and understand everybody more than Kendall, except for Josh that is, and has for months.

What sucks is we probably won't get Kendall getting to confront any of this really, she'll only be said to be unhappy because she's insatiable and selfish and kevil.

GMTA. :)

I too must call :bullshit on Zach & the entire way hes "handling" Kendall. <_< I mean seriously hes not even trying to fix stuff anymore he jsut mopes around & sends her away with the occasional boffing. That is not love! :implode And as for Annie I feel soewhat bad for her but for the most part she brought it on herself.so shes not off the hook as for as I'm concerned. :angry: And btw where the HELL is Spike!? I mena come on Kendall have two kids not just Ian. I wish the writers woudl stop scagoating Kendall too. :madashell

Spike has received more than enough love, IMO.

Never has a soap baby been as forgotten and neglected as Ian Slater. It just hasn't happened before.

I don't criticize Zach lightly. And I sure don't enjoy it. But I don't doubt that Zach loves Kendall. Right now, he doesn't like her very much, IMO. And I guess Greenlee's magic words of wisdom will get him to question what's going on with Kendall, instead of working in his office to avoid her or dismissing her as Kendall being Kendall.

It's interesting that had this story been about the problems they already had in their lives before Aug. 27, and not about Josh's embezzlement, Desk Zex curing all ills, or Kendall berating Annie in her hospital room, I think some of us might have tolerated/enjoyed this story. Heaping a pile of shit on Kendall isn't working for me. And the tedious pace of this story isn't helping, either.

My biggest problems with this story are that it is fairly boring, so far and it is taking forever for the writers to get to the damn point already. Now I don't expect Zen’s issues to be worked out overnight however if the writers take forever to actually get to the crux of the problem then how the hell can Zen start to work out their problems? The writers need to quit screwing around and tell us what is going on in Kendall’s beautiful head. Tell us what the deal is with Zach and Kendall then let them start to work on their issues. I am not a patient person and after B&E I have very little patients with this show. I've about had enough of this crap, because at this point it is not entertaining. These writers are working on my last nerve.

I criticize him lightly (heh) but I agree, and if Kendall's allowed to have an actual side here beyond just being "a bad child," I don't think she likes him much either. I don't doubt the love on either of their parts, but the dislike has been and is boiling over.

ICAM.

Jules,

I haven't watched the show because my mind is actually on :bullshit overload.

Seriously :bullshit has become my mantra. AMC has finally done it to me.

But there is a upside to all of this, I have discovered that there are actually some other shows on TV that I do enjoy. Who would have guessed?

So Jules you will probably set the record because it would not be fair of me to use a gratuitious :bullshit just to win. I would never pull that :bullshit on you.

:rolleyes:

Susan

Thank you!!

I'm so glad I came to this board. Many of you are expressing what I've been feeling lately and it's nice to know I'm not alone!!

I'm glad you like it here, Anne. If sarcasm cures what ails you, this is the place. Because if we don't laugh.... we'll cry.

LOL! this is where I am as well. I honestly don't think Zach has a clue what's up with his wife. I think I know what her issues are, however, I feel like I will be old and gray by the time the writers see fit to let the viewers in on their take.

I will say that, angst lover that I am, I loved the beginning of the scene in bed. If they had just stopped it before Kendall started waxing on about Ryan, I would've loved it more. I can't blame Zach for getting frustrated. Do I like that he got out of bed? Well, I'd prefer they hash things out once and for all, but since that's not the plan, I could deal with him going to work. Kendall is overcompensating for what she's lacking in her marriage (and not admitting to herself or to her husband) by obsessing over everyone else's.

I enjoyed Kendall in the Fusion scenes. I'm glad that while Kendall insecure in her marriage, she still retains some control in one aspect of her life. My fear was that they'd write her to flounder at Fusion as well.

As for Zach/Greenlee, I'm trying to accept that Ryan and Greenlee are going to be the Slaters' BFFs. It pains me to no end that they've re-written history to accommodate these two, but I much prefer her in this role than to the "in Zach's face, 24/7, playing on his sympathy" one she tried on once they got out of the hole. I don't see anything close to pole dancing in their future, and for that I am extremely grateful. And Ryan as BFF as opposed to "rival for Kendall's affections" is definitely a plus.

Oh Lavery... you just had to remind me of the pole dancing, didn't you? I feel nauceous now.

A word about Zach's reaction, because ultra-sensitivity on all sides is causing people (on all boards) to read more into my comments than is there:

I'm angry at Kendall, and she's a fictional character, so I have no problem with Zach being upset/angry/furious with her on any given day. His reaction is realistic to me, and he is entitled to it, especially when she's incessant about other people's problems.

What is not working for me is that he has so many damn reasons to be mad at her (and that's all Mr. Pratt's doing), and he's expressing that in ways that (IMO) are sometimes embarassing to her (like telling her "Enough!" at Fusion in front of her employees) or hurtful (bringing up the ONS, and JMO, but his tone and looks at the hospital, where again I thought he was right in the message, were devastating to a woman drowning in guilt). These are two big problems in his reaction to her. So just as I get fed up with the 500th time Kendall wants to talk about Ryan/Annie/Greenlee, I also get fed up with the 100th time Zach tunes her out, walks away, walks out or dismisses her as Controlling Kendall/Narcissistic Kendall/Stupid Kendall. Because what we've got right now is repetition and no movement, for either of them.

I've felt that some days, the writing for Kendall was pretty bad, and the writing for Zach was princely and perfection. With yesterday's show, I thought the writing for both of them was not good in Zen-related scenes. I also think that maybe, possibly, AMC is giving us a clue that Kendall is bothered by the fact that she keeps messing up her marriage and that Zach thinks she's a screwup. Or maybe not. It may just be AMC having Kendall react to Zach's impatience and anger and lead to nothing. But it bothers Kendall, just as Kendall's obsession bothers Zach.

That's all I was/am trying to say on this subject.

Jules, I know what you're saying about sensitivity and I definitely agree with you here. I am a little surprised that his reactions have been in front of an audience. If you're not happy with your spouse or their behavior, take it up with them in private. Don't air your dirty laundry in public, I guess, is what I'm saying. It's extremely bad form and undermines the other person.

As for the ONS reference, I totally think that that plays a part in their issues. Heck, I'm writing a fic to try to prove it. LOL. The juxtaposition of the G/A bed scenes with K/Z bed scenes reinforced that. There were two people in that cabin, yet there is only one suffering the outcome.

It isn't the first time that he's done stuff like that though. I've always had an issue with the fact that he never discusses things with Kendall before agreeing with someone else. It's one of those things that should be addressed too but I'm not holding out much hope for it.

You're right, J. Zach Slater has always been about control. He makes decisions and acts. He doesn't discuss it or regret/apologize for his actions later. I used to like that, still do on some level, but I think it worked better when he was single. It doesn't work as well for me now, now that he has a wife and a family that his actions/decisions impact.

And this is why all sides of this fanbase is going insane.